I had posted a relevant article earlier on my blog, but repeatedly I have been getting query on this subject from people. I thought to produce it with concrete evidence.
I want you to read my following article before reading this article (Please click)
Next time you want to pursue distance engineering degree be doubly sure
Also, please click on following link too
Above two articles provide lot of required information and clarity on validity of distance education engineering, hotel management and architect programmes.
Many private and deemed universities and few private degree selling agents of such private and deemed universities are openly selling engineering degrees. If you have read my blog multiple times and well, you must have realised now that there are 4 types of universities and out of that central universities are most reputed and valuable. Most corrupts and worst are private universities. Many students, including those pursuing full time courses from these private and deemed universities (private deemed universities) suffer a lot. They do not get recognition, they do not get placements and they do not become eligible for higher studies and job in India and abroad. It is their loss of money, time and they go under mental harassment from these private and private deemed universities. I have exposed these institutes time to time.
Now, let me clarify about these private and deemed universities offering distance learning engineering programmes. They are advertising through their agents, they are advertising on so called education websites such as India education, Shiksha, HT and so on. These are media run websites with the motive of making profit through advertisement. They never do due diligence before accepting advertisement of such institutes.
AICTE is very clear and specified through its letter no (I am reproducing it below) F.No. 1-45/UB/2010 dated August 05, 2010 has clearly specified :
"It has been the policy of the AICTE , not to recognize the qualifications acquired through distance mode at Diploma, Bachelors and Masters Level in the field of Engineering and Technology including Architecture, Town Planning, Pharmacy, Hotel Management and Catering Technology, Applied Arts and Carfts, Pst Graduate Diploma in Management (PGDM). AICTE recognize only MBA and MCA through distance mode."
In the light of above, B.Tech degree acquired through distance education, from any university/ deemed university are not approved by AICTE.
I hope above statement makes it very clear. AICTE does not recognize above mentioned distance learning programme except MBA and MCA. Further, even though AICTE recognize distance MBA and MCA, they must be awarded as per other specified conditions including taking prior separate approval from AICTE, following territorial jurisdiction, taking all the exams in the campus only in case of private and deemed university and so on.
I a,m sure, you must have few question after reading this article. I'll try my level best to answer those queries.
Now lets move to few questions and answers to provide you clarity
1. I completed BE/ B.Tech in distance mode in 2009 from JNTU Hyderabad (Jawaharlal Nehru Technological University, Hyderabad). Is it recognized by AICTE? May I apply for higher studies, government job, job abroad and to study abroad?
Yes. If you have completed it by 2009 then only you are eligible. Only following programmes had AICTE and DEC approval
B. Tech. in Civil Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, Electrical & Electronics Engineering, Electronics & Communication Engineering, Computer Science & Engineering
2. Which other distance learning BE/ B.Tech are recognized then and under which conditions?
Andhra University Vishakhapatnam
B. Tech. (Chemical Engineering) BE in Civil Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, Electrical & Electronic Engineering, Electronics & Communications Engineering
3. Jamia Millia Islamia University Jamia Nagar, New Delhi
Diploma in Power generation engineering
Diploma in Power transmission engineering
4. Thapar University Patiala [Formerly Thapar Institute of Engineering & Technology]
Birla Institute of Technology & Sciences Pilani
M.E. (Collaborative) – Industrial Development, Industrial Production, Project Engineering
MVS– Computer Operations & Applications, Information Management, Footwear Technology, Physician Assistant, Office Management
B.S. in – Pharmacy Operations, Technological Operations, Industrial Management, Engineering Technology, Information Systems, Process Engineering, Engineering & Industrial Technology, Optometry, Physician Assistant, Power Engineering, Nautical Sciences, Industrial Engineering & Technology, Manufacturing Engineering, Marine Engineering, Ophthalmic Assistant, Nautical Technology, Engineering Design
First Level Diploma in Computer Applications, Instrument Servicing & Maintenance, Workshop Technology, Footwear Technology, Nautical Sciences
M.Sc. (Tech.)– Pharmaceutical Chemistry
M.S. in – Computer, Electronics & Control, Pharmacy Operations, Software Systems, Systems & Information, Technological Operations, Science & Technology, Computer Science, Pharmacy Operations, Physical Sciences, Electronic Sciences, Engineering Management, Habitat Technology, Life Sciences, Design Engineering, Management Systems, Biomedical Sciences, Industrial Production & Management, Consultancy Management, Medical Laboratory Technology, Consciousness Studies, Software Engineering, Micro-electronics, Quality Management, Manufacturing Management, Chemical Technology, e-Business, Pharmaceutical Operations and Management, Telecommunications and Software Engineering, Embedded Systems, Mechanical Systems Design, Science Communication, Systems Engineering, Pharmaceutics, Educational System Management
5. Yashwantrao Chavan Maharashtra Open University (YCMOU), Nashik
B.Tech
Diploma in engineering
Diploma in architecture
Bachelor of Architect
The condition was, they cannot offer any course beyond 2009. All the course, even if any one of the above university is offering after 2009 stands invalid.
I got the point. Now KSOU, RVD University (Janardan Rai Nagar Rajasthan Vidyapeeth University), IASE deemed university, Shobhit University, Technoglobal University, Manav Bharati University, EIILM University, CMJ University, C V Raman University, Chhatisgarh University, Swami Vivekanand University, Shridhar University etc. are offering me quick engineering degree. Are they valid?
No, they are mostly fake and being sold with the nexus of the university officials. Out of these, few universities already shut down their shop or working low profile now. Avoid any such degree. You may be getting email from them providing easy degree, but you my lose your time and money both.
BITS Pilani is still offering BS and MS course. Are they valid?
BITS is a very reputed institute, but it also want to make money. Their programmes do not have AICTE as well as DEB approval after 2010 hence any such degrees are not recognized. You cannot bank upon this degree for higher education and public sector job, few universities may not accept the degree too, however, if you are working in a private sector and looking for a tag of a reputed institute, you may pursue it. Here is the transcript from one of my blog reader, who after a lot of research finally joined BITS Pilani.
Here is the transcript:
"Hi Govind, Finally I registered for the off campus M Tech program from BITS, Pilani. I got a live example of a such student who did PhD from IIT after pursuing this degree. I heard Anna Univ. and Tamilnadu Univ does not accept this. But, many other universities are accepting this as eqvt to regular MTech including IITs.
Also, my employer is sponsoring this degree On the condition that if I leave within 2 years I have to refund the money to my employer.
The HR department strongly suggests that I do this program. Also, they told they will put me at per with other regular M Techs whenever company asks MTech for any other position etc.
thanks govind. i mentioned to HR whatever you told me and they told they already knew all that...like BITS Plinali does not have DEB approval etc...but they do not care.
yah, but if i do well, i'll do again off campus PhD from BITS Pilani...but for that I have to study well...
I'm filling a RTI to UGC if I can appear for NET using this degree. I'll also keep you posted. will do this in a day or two
its not that much risk as BITS is a well known institute for BITS even I would not have care about DEB approval it pose risk just for PhD but you have taken a right decision
do not worry
Hi Govind, I took admission in BITS, Pilani off-campus M. Tech program and I find it to be very good. Excellent quality live lectures. They put tremendous pressure through assignments, mid-semester and end-semester examination.The questions are such that it requires in depth knowledge of the subject. Answers are not available in text book. In terms of Quality its as per the standard of BITS, Pilani regular course. Same syllabus etc... Even, they are allowing admission to PhD if someone gets 60% marks and can clear NET / GATE exam
No doubt they are good
only thing, they should have sought approval "
As far as somebody is not looking for government jobs, the programme is very good
My suggestion for people who want to opt BS and MS from BITS in off campus mode: Please speak to your HR department and do only if they are sponsoring it. The cost for MS goes around 2 lakhs. If you are least bothered about government approval, you must do it. It is much better than many regular programmes.
I am working in private sector and has no plan to pursue PhD or public sector job, should I still worry about AICTE approval?
Yes, you should if:
1. You are planning higher studies abroad in near future.
2. If you are planning immigration
3. If you are planning to start teaching as a career
Degree from any university does not work. If you do from institutes like BITS, its add value, but doing it from KSOU, JRN and other institutes mentioned above, then it is of no worth. They are just piece of paper.
Is AMIE/ AMIECHE/ AMIETE etc. are recognized as equivalent to BE/ B.Tech?
Yes, for higher studies in India, it is definitely approved. Following are equivalent to BE/ B.Tech in their respective branch of engineering
• The Institution of Engineers (India) (AMIE)
• The Aeronautical Society of India (AESI) (eligible only for aerodynamics, structures and propulsions streams)
• The Indian Institute of Metals (AMIM)
• The Indian Institute of Chemical Engineers, including Polymer and Environmental Group (AMIIChemE)
• The Institution of Electronics and Tele-communication Engineering (AMIETE)
For government job, only those who have enrolled upto 2012 are valid.
AMIE and such other chartered engineering degrees are not approved in every country. You need to check about it.
In 2012, Government of India, Ministry of HRD had issued a circular asking these institutes (IE, IETE, IME and more total 15) not to admit fresh students. The matter is subjudice and both Institute of Engineers and IETE has got stay order from Delhi High Court of Ministry of HRD circular hence the degrees are still valid till the next hearing.
Without an engineering degree, I cannot get promotion in my job. What should I do now?
I see BITS Pilani's BS as only option for you as it still has corporate value and good in knowledge too. You should not be victim of various fake universities and institutes. Just do due diligence, speak to your HR whether they are willing to accept BITS BS programme and take further decision.
Is AICTE approval mandatory for every university?
Yes. As per the Supreme Court order, now it is mandatory for universities to take AICTE approval. I am soon going to publish list of all AICTE approved universities.
Are you going to expose such fake colleges and institutes?
Yes. It need lot of research. I have already exposed many of them on my blog. Please search and read. Few of them are IIMTS, Khatu Shyam College, IIME, SSK College, Aditya College of engineering, IIKM Chennai, Way 2 Career, IMTS, KSIMT (Khatu Shyam ), EIMT, TQM Biz school, these are the partial list.
I hope I have been able to provide you more clarity through this article. Please feel free to ask your genuine query for which answers are not available on this article or my any previous article.
Have a safe career.
Govind
Mumbai